Meeting Minutes – 7 September 2023

September Members Meeting at York Hospital Social Club- 7 Sept 2023

Apologies:

Ian Hotchkies, Andy McEvoy and Sam Bayley

Introductions and information from the summer

The meeting began at 19:38 with 30 members present for the guest speaker Matt Messias

We had one new member on the evening, Neil Hunter from Poppleton who has recently passed the February referees course.

Myles Smith and Vlad Mollov welcomed onto the committee

David Milburn congratulated on his achievement in Rugby League as a match commissioner

The SILVER QUEST Award was highlighted that was presented at our 2022 annual dinner

David King applauded for his achievements which saw him end up at Wembley over the summer

Law updates

Dave King ran members through the most recent changes in the LOTG, albeit fairly minor changes for the new season

Safeguarding

Barry Casterton talked us through some current safeguarding issues and upcoming courses

Clip Analysis

Alan showed a range of different clips from his recent games, sparking debate around simulation, technical area misconduct, and penalty kick decisions

Matt Messias:

Chairman Alan introduced Matt Messias, one of our own members who is an ex FIFA & Premier League Referee. Matt began his presentation with a special thanks to Dave King to recognise his 50 years lifetime award. Matt then proceeded to host an interactive discussion around mass confrontations. Referees from different years of experience were put together on tables to discuss the different stages of what is best practice when confrontations occur. It was a very informative evening, that was well received by all those in attendance… a good turnout for the first meeting of the season

AOB:

Date of next meeting – 5 October 2023

Raffle

Meeting closed at 21:50


   

Meeting minutes – 4 May 2023

Minutes of AGM held at NHS Club

4 May 2023

with 20 members present

 

Apols (8) were receive from JP Gordon, A McEvoy, D Milburn, M Messias, S Bayley, S Wood, G Rhodes and I Smellie

AGM minutes from 2022 were agreed

Chairman’s report – had been in Chair for four years now, dominated by the COVID bug. Like all organisations we suffered but seemed to be getting back on track now. He thanked all, committee, members and guests over the year. Thanks also to the NHS Club and Donna for the use of the facilities. Looking forward  to attaining the Silver Quest Awards and the Annual Dinner with numbers up (60’s). Hoping that more younger and lady refs in the area will become members in the future.

Secretary’s Report – written and passed to members (meeting average at 28)

Treasurer’s Report – a written balance sheet was circulated. Ran at a small loss but a healthy balance. Most of the subs to go National RA and the dinner (which is expected). Was discussed and accepted. Transaction fees to be reviewed by new committee.

Safeguarding Officer – 18 cases of under-18’s, players, refs, etc. Mainly disciplinary procedures letting people down. Stressed that when reporting, check everything prior to reporting. Abide by the rules and regs, especially with U18’s

VoT given to retiring officers

Election of Officers – Chair; A Kaye, Vice Chair; Vacant, Secretary; C Ledgeway, Safeguarding; B Casterton, Communications; D King, Treasurer; J Ledgeway, Youth Member; M Gibson

There being no permissible business the meeting closed 8.05pm

 


 

Minutes of meeting held at NHS Club

4 May 2023

with 20 members present

 

Apols as AGM

Minutes silence for Eric Chapman, ex-member and appointments secretary for many years with York Minster League and York Minor League. Always donated a bag of spuds for a raffle prize at our meetings. A person you could not refuse when he rang looking for a referee at short notice, like 10pm on a Friday evening.

Also Keith Sales (Pickering) of the Becket League for many years

The Chairman then showed some clips of matches he had been involved with (as PGMOL assessor) and invited discussion. This proved very enjoyable (even though projector failed)

Meeting closed at 9.40pm

Meeting minutes – 2 March 2023

Minutes of meeting at NHS Club held on 2nd March 23

With 30 members and guests in attendance

The chairman welcomed all to the meeting. Prior to commencement a moments silence was observed for the voice of football John Motson. It was later mentioned that Roy Ellwood, one of the founder members of York Sunday Morning League and York FA member had passed away (service at the crem 23 March)

Apols were received from MS/Mssrs Thornton; Gordon; Dennison; Milburn; Simpson (5 no).

Dinner; May 19th Marriott; £30; names to treasurer; Menu selection/booking form to follow.

Safeguarding; Parents/Coaches acting up on U15s. If confronted with this situation, contact relevant team manager. Report to CFA with all details and words used.

Body Cams; follow up to the use in NRCFA (Langbaurgh Legue) a few weeks ago. The trial was classed as a success as not one camera was activated. Seems a good deterrent.

10 local officials have been awarded appointments on local CFA finals. Congratulations were given.

John Murray, Radio Sports Commentator then gave a presentation on the how’s and wherefores/pitfalls of commentating football, where for 90minutes you are doing unscripted work. It can be like refereeing where the unexpected happens. As in flashpoints where goalscoring incidents occur and quick recognition of players is required. VAR now adds an extra layer of drama now. A lot of pre match data is required regarding players stats being up to date and who is playing where/when etc. We now have career broadcasters on good pay and numerous players on pundit stints. This was a very interesting and different side of the game. John had also covered various other events

D King gave a VoT.

There being no more business meeting closed at 9.40

Next meeting 6th Apr, The Conor and Mac roadshow

Meeting minutes – 6 April 2023

 

MINUTES OF MEETING HELD ON 6th APRIL 23

 

At NHS Club with 22 members and guests in attendance.

The chairman welcomed all to the meeting, including new members. He then congratulated the members who were awarded FA cup final appointments in York and Selby.

APOLS were received from Mssrs; Gerring; Clarke; Bayley; Gordon; Rhodes; Bradbury & Thornton (7 no).

SILVER AWARD; work was in progress with Barry Casterton and Conor Ledgeway. A safeguarding policy for York RA is well under way. Hopefully that they will be completed shortly.

SAFEGUARDING; Young refs are not reporting cases of abuse, basically not knowing how; who and where to report cases. A children’s policy is being amended for York RA.

Sophie Wood then showed a video regarding the trial of body cams (NRCFA Langbaurgh League). She then gave a report on using them. There then followed a discussion on with topics raised; videoing of youth matches, youth football filming and problems that can arise.

Conor and Macauley then gave a presentation using clips of level 4 refs. These were all discussed and various outcomes raised. With using level 4’s it was easier for the floor to interact with. All enjoyed.

DINNER; the chairman gave out details, awaiting confirmation on our guest, a hard man to pin down, but hopeful.

 

Meeting closed at 9.35


Meeting minutes – 2 February 2023

Minutes of meeting held at NHS Club
on 2 Feb 2023

There were 23 members/guests in attendance.

Apols were received (13no)from Mssrs/Ms ; A Thornton; PJ Berry; S Berry; R Simpson; M Shields; D Milburn; A Kay; A McEvoy; C Smith; JP Gordon; V Molov; S Wood; M Messias

The chairman welcomed all, mentioning new member attending first time (Jake Drummond) and mid-season promotions

York members have/had some plum appointments in CFA Cup matches lately. Watch this space for future updates regarding appointments etc.

Thanks given to D King for the newsletter

Body cams were going to be trialed on a NR County League (Lamburgh) for 18 months. First in the country

Safeguarding; misconduct quite, just clubs playing unregistered players

Membership stands at 41

There then followed a discussion covering various topic; match incidents; white cards

Garreth Rhodes one of our members gave a presentation entitled Key Match Decisions. This entailed splitting into groups of 4, watching clips (10 of) of incidents, discussing what/why/ decision. Then Gareth giving the outcome. This proved to be one of mixed thoughts, enjoyed by all
Connor Ledgeway gave a VoT

A reminder of forthcoming dinner 19th May, arrangements in hand. Meeting closed at 10.00


Monthly meeting minutes – 5 January 2023

Minutes of meeting held on 5th Jan 2023

At NHS Club

 

With 40 members and guests in attendance……best attendance for some while

The Chairman welcomed all, wishing all best wishes for the New Year.

 

As our guest David Webb; YCFC Manager wanted to be away sharpish, he took the chair.

David gave an insight of his career and his background spanning; youth; coaching; development; and various roles, working his way up with experience before his managerial role with YCFC.

He then hosted a Q & A session, answering all questions and queries put to him.

J Ledgeway gave a VoT.

 

After the break normal business was resumed;

Apols were received from; PJ Berry; S Bayley; C Jaques-Smith; M Shield; M Messias.

New ref Reece and father were welcomed.

B Casterton gave report on safeguarding, mentioning that all refs have to take safeguarding courses but club officials are not.

He then gave the names of the CFA Senior Cup final officials, which were local lads. Congrats were given.

There had been problems at the Scarboro V Darlington match. CFA awaiting all details.

Dinner was fixed for Friday 19th May.

 

Dave Milburn then gave a report on his experiences at the RL Wheelchair Rugby World Cup where he was officiating. He showed his medal to the floor.

The Chairman hoped that all who attended will come again.

The meeting closed at 9.35


Meeting minutes – 8 December 2022

Minutes of meeting held at NHS Club

Held on Dec 8th 2022

 

With 24 members and guest in attendance.

The chairman welcomed all, including two new members to the meeting who were introduced to the meeting. He mentioned that Mr Askey was the first manager to go before he had attended our meeting.

Apols were received from Mssrs : Messias; Bayley; Gordon; Simpson; Coote; King; Smith; Rich; McEvoy; Blakey; Kay; Hall; Gibson; Naylor.

Dinner:  Mr and Mrs Howard Webb had been approached and both had accepted. This is subject to future commitments by both.

Safeguarding; Barry Casterton York RA safeguarding officer gave an update re; Silent support weekend; Safeguarding and DBS registrations; Improvement in discipline reports.

Membership, John Ledgeway outlined benefits of the RA. Membership 36.

There then followed a discussion on the World Cup.

We then split into teams of four for the Annual Quiz hosted by Conor Ledgeway. This was enjoyed by all with 62 questions and all answers in the 50s, making it a close finish.

Thanks were given to Conor, the buffet then followed.

Next meeting 5th Jan.

Chairman wished all best wishes for the festive season and New Year.

Meeting closed at 9.25


Meeting minutes – 3 November 2022

Minutes of meeting held on 3rd Nov 22

At NHS Club with 26 members & guests in attendance.

 

The chairman welcomed all to the meeting, welcoming a new young member and two ladies -Charlotte & Sophie (NRCFA).

Apols were received from Mssrs Casterton; Askew; Messias; Elliott ?; Milburn; Kay; Smith; Coote; McEvoy; Gordon.

Dinner was fixed for 19th May 23, Marriott Hotel.

The Chairman had two tickets available for Rugby match next day, willing to accept offers for them.

Safeguarding; IH gave a report highlighting the need to make reports concise and accurate.

Conor Ledgeway related a problem arising pre-match regarding a player with a plaster cast on. Various views were given. All was settled pre match (player ending injured and had to leave the FoP.)

G Bradbury brought up the views on Pre match pitch inspections. This due to the problem arising of two EFL matches where the cross bar too high and pitch markings not correct.

Dean Kiely ex YCFC goalkeeper was hosting an evening at Carlton Hotel Pub, Acomb on 26th Nov.

The evening’s guest Billy Webb (Howards’ Dad) then gave a very entertaining evening reciting experiences between myself and my son. He stated he was a member of the RA for 56 years. He related incidents; good; bad; serious; comical. This developed into a very entertaining evening with a different view on refereeing. After three last incidents he finished and the chairman gave a vote of thanks.

Next meeting has been put back a week to Dec 8th, which will be a buffet and quiz.

The meeting closed at 9.55


Meeting minutes 6 October 2022

Minutes of meeting held on 6th Oct 22

 At NHS Club with 37 members and guests attending

This was our highest attendance since March 2013 when a certain Howard Webb was our guest.

The chairman welcomed all to the meeting. Asked new refs to introduce themselves.

Mins last meeting  were on line.

Apols  were received from Mssrs; Rhodes; Bayley; Blakey; Shields; Ballantyne; Cardill; Cottingham; McEvoy.

Life member Colin Fawcett was told that his 90th birthday had been reached.

Problem Corner; two incidents were discussed at length, with various views and outcomes muted. It was mentioned that when involved in incident’s and reporting, always use exact words etc. Help is available with CFA and the RA.

Safeguarding, Barry Casterton gave a report of the problems arising with  the players/managers. The same advice was given; use actual words etc in reporting.

December meeting has been changed to 8th (second Thursday)

Due to the non appearance of John Askew the York City AFC manager, Matt Messias stood in at late notice and gave a very informative talk on his footballing and leadership/motivation careers. This was a very informative talk, covering; Mental Health/ media, etc.

Next meeting; Billy Webb (Howard Webbs dad);

There being no more business a VoT was given and meeting closed at a late 9.50


Meeting minutes 1 Sept 2022

Meeting 1 September 2022 at York Hospital Sport Club

Apols were received fro 17 no. including Secretary I Hotchkies, C Ledgeway, A McEvoy, M Messias, T Turner, A Kay, E Heward, J Drummond, J Guerin, B Bishop, S Bayley, G Hartley, B Smith, S Wood, I Smellie

23 no present

[All present received a free drink courtesy of York RA……..great gesture]

Chairman (AK) opened the first meeting of the new season and welcomed all present, including members of Barkston Ash RA ( G Rhodes provide an update)

AK had written to all referees on the NRCFA Core Group and invited those from York and District to the meetings

David King gave a brief update of Law Changes (emphasising Laws 8, 10, 12, 14) and mentioned FA Non-heading in football trial for U12 in York

Barry Casterton provide an update on Safeguarding in the County; also new referees course starts in York at the end of Sept 22

John Ledgeway mentioned that subs were now due (£20 for full members, £10 for U18 and free to first year referees)

After the break AK introduced our guest, Marc Edwards, EFL Referee from Durham

He entitled his presentation “Highs and Lows and How to Progress”

Marc gave an account of his career to date – started in 2004 and is in his 4th year of an FL Referee, stating the highs and lows of his career – RESILIENCE being the key word

Marc inspired those in attendance and spoke on confidence, safe refereeing and controlling the controllables

BC presented Marc with a memento from York RA and he was given the usual York RA thankyou


At the next meeting  it is planned to receive Dave Babski, PGMOL AR Coach and ex-Premiership AR as our guest

Further meetings planned on:

6 Oct – Dave Babski, PGMOL Coach

3 Nov – Billy Webb (Father of Howard Webb)

1 Dec – Christmas Quiz and buffet

5 Jan 23 – Rebecca Welch, FIFA and EFL Referee